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Cheap HD DVD? You decide.

I've had this dilemma for months now. I am right at the point where I was planning on upgrading my hardware and TV to create the "Ultimate Movie Room". These plans started a year ago before the specs were fleshed out for HD DVD and BluRay.

Once I heard how crippled all of the HD movie hardware/software was going to be, I knew that I couldn't support it. Not to mention the BetaMax vs. VHS style war going on with the two different formats. So I started looking towards alternatives that would yield comparable results and this is what I came up with.

First I needed to decide where I was going to put this stuff. Instead of creating the ultimate movie room, I scaled back a bit and decided to upgrade the system in my family room. Once I knew where I was going to upgrade, now I needed to decide what to upgrade.

First the TV. I love the small form-factors of plasmas and LCDs. I know that I could get the best bang for the buck with a DLP but I loose some of the "sleek factor" there. So I started my search for a Plasma or LCD. I ended up on the Philips 42" Plasma with Ambilight. 42" is about the biggest TV that will fit in my space but you could easily replace this size with something more fitting for yourself. The thing that is important is the inputs/outputs on the back and the overall resolution. In my opinion, 1080p (or 1920 × 1080 resolution) is overkill right now and since I know I am not going to buy a BluRay or HD DVD player any time soon, I decided with a TV that is 720p/1080i or 1366x768 resolution. The Philips has 2 HDMI inputs and an audio output (somewhat uncommon for these TVs for some reason). The HDMI cables allow me to get 1080i signal. I spent about $1300 for the TV.

Next is the audio and DVD solution. Since this is going in the family room and having rear surround speakers wasn't an option, I wanted an all in one solution that output some good sound. It was also important that the system up-convert DVD from that standard 480p to 1080i. This usually means it has to have an HDMI output. The final requirement is that it had the Faroudja video processor. My understanding from most of the AV nerds out there is that this chip does the best video up-conversion on the market. So I settled for the Denon S301 system. It has great sound, HDMI connection, up-converts to 1080i, uses the Faroudja chip, and even has a USB and iPod port on the front! I got this open box from Best Buy for around $1000.

Now that I have the TV and Stereo/DVD, I needed the cables to hook everything up. Seeing as I was at Best Buy, I decided to pick up the cheapest HDMI cables they had. 2 x 6 feet cables cost me $140. WOW! What a rip right? Exactly. So I went online to find cheaper/better cables. I found a site that sold HDMI cables for $17 each and were 2 to 3 times the thickness of the "cheapie" Best Buy cables. A quick search on google.com and you're set. So 2 HDMI cables cost me about $40. The thing to note here is that it is a digital signal and unless you are trying to pass that signal great lengths, it doesn't make a difference who makes them. The $200 Monster cables work just as well as my $17 generic cables...especially over such a short distance. Do yourself a favor and don't waste your time on the "better" digital cables, they are all the same.

The final thing you want to do is get a new cable box or DVR. Chances are that you box has been sitting in the same room for a few years. Well, all of the chips and technology in those boxes has been gradually upgraded. I got a new box days after I had everything setup and it made a dramatic difference. Make up any lie you want as to why you need a new box but don't tell them you want it because you just got a new HD TV. They probably won't respond very well to that.

So I now have a system that displays HD cable in 1080i and a DVD player that up-converts to 1080i getting me very close to an actual HD DVD or BluRay picture at a fraction of the cost. I can continue buying the regular DVDs at $10-15 each vs. the HD content at $23-30 each. In total I spent about $2400 on a near-HD DVD quality system which is thousands less than I would have spent on a 1080p TV, HD DVD or BluRay player, Separate Stereo and Speakers, and cables to hook it all up. On top of that, the thousands of dollars I have already spent on regular DVDs doesn't go to waste and I can continue to purchase those DVDs at 1/2 the price.

All in all not a bad alternative to the high priced, drm crippled, user unfriendly HD DVD or BluRay solutions of today.
Published Tuesday, December 19, 2006 2:07 PM by IHateDRMAdmin

Comments

 

goatimus said:

For those of you who ran right out and bought a high-def  disc player, you should be aware you're actually supporting this mentality founnd in this article. Have fun!

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070115-8616.html
January 15, 2007 12:26 PM
 

dashwarts said:

(Reply to goatimus)

That's just terrible! If DRM is for that purpose, the world is really in for it! That's just plain unthinkable! In fact, in a way (you need to have executed a certain, well known loophole to understand), DRM rewards pirates who work hard at circumention, at an unbearable cost to the consumer who wants to follow the law.

Whoever invented DRM, you certainly seem to have forgotten the phrase that SHOULD apply to America (at least the constitution in a way states this): "It's a free country unless you step on someone else's rights."
January 16, 2007 2:13 PM
 

Ric said:

I would love to tell you of our experience my wife and I add with the Big Blue Box (Best Buy).  Trust me if I would have know of your Web site I would have heeded the warnings and advice of others that have had just horrible experience with Best Buy.

Well here goes:

My wife and I decided to take some of our Tax Return to buy us a new Washer, and Dryer.  Well as usual we went to BB as we have done for in the last (9) years to buy all of our Big Price appliance items, as we have bought our (3) Desktop Computers, (2) Refrigerator, (1) Dishwasher, (2) TV’s  (3) DVD Player’s, (2) VCR’s,  (3) Surround Sound Systems…. etc…well you get the picture, close to $10,000.00 over those (9) years.

Things seem to go smoothly with the purchase of both of them till the arraigning of the FREE delivery that was with the package deal.  But the sales person worked out the glitches an made the delivery on Wed’s the 14th of February in the late afternoon.  I informed the sales person that we had some serious plans made, and could they arraign it before or after the 14th.  “No” was the reply that it was the only day they could make the delivery.  Well ok I said, “but let’s make sure it happens”.  No problem was the reply; a they would call us the night before to confirm the time in the afternoon. “Great”, I said, let’s do it.

The night of the 13th we waited till around 9pm for their call.  Nothing, no call.  So I called the store a talked to the sale person that sold us the Washer/Dryer, and asked when they would be delivered. I waited on hold for over 20 minutes.  Finally I called back and asked for the Manager on Duty.  Waited other 10 minutes till he came on the line.  I explained the situation to him; he stated he would check into this.  After other 10 minutes he game back on the line.  He stated that the Order for delivery was CANCELLED and that there was not going to be a delivery. Well my jaw dropped to the floor.  “What the Hell was going on”, I asked, I know we didn’t cancel the order for delivery.  I informed him of this and said this was not acceptable and that they would need to make the delivery as promised and that we would not be available for any other day.  And why the Hell had this had happen.  After waiting for other 15 minutes on the phone he finally came back on with “ it will be delivered tomorrow between 4pm an 6pm” OK I said great. As I was about to thank him he hung up, without an apology of any kind, or any explanation of what was going on?  Well this should have clued me into Best Buy’s customer service policy of SCREW’EM AN LOSES’EM.     Well as promise they did deliver the machines on time, but not with out some hassles there too.

Where comes the good part:

The following week my wife an I decided to buy a new laptop computer, and of course BB was having a Package Deal on a Toshiba laptop with Windows Vista installed and also with Mini mouse, and carrying case.  This sounded great, and in our price arrange too.  So we went into the Store and as usual we had to hunt down someone in the computer department to help us with the purchase.  After finding a fresh Snot Nose Narcissistic Kid barely out of high school to help us, we decided to ask a few questions about the New Windows Vista system.  We wanted to know if this laptop would be able to communicate with the other (3) computers we have in our home running Windows XP?  And would it work with our Linksys Network Router System?  And will we be able to share files, and to use our Lexmark Printer with this new Windows Vista, and our Network?  “ Well of course it would…was his reply, with no problems.  “ Well with that, and the blind trust I put in people we bought the laptop, and the extended service plan.  And back home with our new toy.

Well we got it home and started to set it up, and everything was going as smooth as silk till we tried to set up the Network to share files/folders with the other computers, and the printer.  Now I am not illiterate when it comes to computers, nor am I an expert, but I knew something was a miss, and something was not right. Well it was late and we decided to wait till the morning to finish the setup.

The following day was the Worst Frkin Nightmare I have had in 35 years (showing my age of 55) of dealing with any big business, and of course the worst day I ever had with Best Buy.

I kept trying to make the Laptop communicate with the Network, and my other (3) computers.  I would keep getting a Microsoft Windows Error of “not finding a Network”.  After spending an hour on their web site I could find nothing, so I called them.  I spent over 45 minutes waiting; finally I spoke to someone about the problem (because I thought since it was a Windows Error the would be able to help) no such luck.  They said I would need to contact Toshiba about this since this was an OEM (original equipment manufacture) problem, and not theirs.  “Great” Called Toshiba, nothing, this were their service person informs me that the new Windows Vista program will not work with the network, router, a printer if my other (3) computers are running Windows XP.   “HOLY COW POOP”.  This was Frkin Peachy.  Toshiba suggested to call Best Buy to see what they can do for me, buy asking someone there if they could help set up the network to communicate with the other computers.  Sounded like sense.  So I did.

So I called the Big Blue Box (BB) and spoke to same manager I had dealt with on the delivery problem.  Wow that was the most stupid mistake I ever made.   This manager was the biggest “***” I ever spoke to.  I calmly explained the problem to him, an how I was led to believe that there would be no problem with this Laptop running Windows Vista to work with my computers, network, and printer.  He told me point blank told me that his sales person would have “never would have told me such a thing”.  God I was outraged, not only was He calling me a Lair but also it was quite clear that this worthless manager was not going to help me at all.  I asked to speak to his Boss, (the store manager) SHE was not there.  Then I asked how to get in contact with his District manager…. guess what…that’s right, he refused to give me that info also stating he did not know how, an even if he did he would not give me that info, because all customer concerns, and problems are handled at the store level, and that this problem did not warrant any further attention.  What a worthless piece of human waste.  I asked what was the name of his store manager, at first he was very hesent, and then he gave me her name.

Well for the next (4) days I spent calling the Best Buy customer service line, (what a gdamn joke this is), calling their Corp Office, calling their District office, trying to get someone to listen and care about my problem.  Again No-one gave a Royal flying Rats Ass about what was going on.  Only to inform me that all the customer relation problems needs are handle at the Store Level.  “My God, don’t they understand that here in lies the problem the Store Management and the rotten little peckerhead that sold me the Laptop. “NO>>>HELL NO”.  So after nearly going to the Hospital because on my Blood Pressure I decided to give it up.  Knowing that Best Buy had SCREWED ME IN THE ASS AN NEVER USED ANY TYPE OF LUB TO EASE THE PAIN.  Then out of the Blue the lousy Store Manager called an gave me the lamest apology I ever heard but still would not help me with my problem only offering to send out the GEEK Squad to make my Laptop work with my other computers, an network.  But of course this would cost me other $200.00 for their service.  God what kind of sick joke these folks live under, what kind of CON-Game they are playing on the costumer, what kind of people believe they would have me come back an waste my money in their store after this kind of Bull Sh___t.

God I pray, and beg anyone reading this not to buy your need’s at Best Buy, they will Lie, Cheat, an screw you up the behind so hard, that you will see stars.  If any one reading this and still believes they will get good service from BB, all you will get is a Stroke.

BEST BUY   GO TO   HELL YOU ROTTEN MOTHERF___KERS.
March 22, 2007 9:59 PM
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